tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6888282.post2234942928355908962..comments2024-03-07T00:03:12.584-07:00Comments on John's Corner of the World: More on Doug Phillips' vision for the future of homeschooling in AmericaJohn Holzmannhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14849211055450293089noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6888282.post-64731416175561640662009-05-12T07:30:00.000-06:002009-05-12T07:30:00.000-06:00Your comments about the high school reminded me of...Your comments about the high school reminded me of <A HREF="http://homeschoolnetc.blogspot.com/2009/05/involved-parent.html" REL="nofollow">Mrs. C's post yesterday</A>. Some interesting parallels...<br /><br />"We are--each branch--hopefully, brought closer to a balanced perspective when we recognize how our brothers and sisters from other cultures and in other contexts interpret the same Scriptures." Amen!<br /><br />I am also against the "commercialization" of our modern churches. But rather than withdrawing from them in order to make a "pure" sect, I would urge teachers to continue to educate their congregation about the purpose of church. Once we learn that church is for equipping the saints for ministry, our perspective, interaction, and approach will be much more healthy.<br /><br /> ~LukeLuke Holzmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07799632321310461828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6888282.post-70004805857991072902009-05-12T06:44:00.000-06:002009-05-12T06:44:00.000-06:00Thanks, Steve. Your comments were helpful.
And if...Thanks, Steve. Your comments were helpful.<br /><br />And if all men were as honorable as you, I expect <A HREF="http://johnscorner.blogspot.com/2009/05/what-happens-to-women-in-patriarchal.html" REL="nofollow">my post about women in patriarchal societies</A> would be less needful.<br /><br />HOWEVER, I wrote what I did <EM>especially</EM> because of <A HREF="http://jensgems.wordpress.com/category/jens-story-03/" REL="nofollow">the testimony of a woman from Doug's own church who, when having to deal with a (now self-confessed) abusive husband, was <EM>ignored</EM> by the church leadership and Doug in particular</A> . . . and told <A HREF="http://jensgems.wordpress.com/category/jens-story-02/" REL="nofollow">she had to appeal to church leaders <EM>through</EM> her husband</A>. --A perfect case of a person who would be ill-served by Doug's urgent appeals to destroy all extra-familial social structures (like CPS, youth groups and Sunday schools--many of the structures I found were so helpful to me as I grew up in a rather dysfunctional family).<br /><br />Returning to the story of the woman: Granted no voice of her own, she and her children were <A HREF="http://jensgems.wordpress.com/category/jens-story-05/" REL="nofollow">put at danger</A>. <br /><br />I thought it was appropriate to draw the analogy with what is going on <EM>even today</EM> in "liberal" America--Los Angeles, no less.<br /><br />Thanks for challenging me.John Holzmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14849211055450293089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6888282.post-2855589857399883722009-05-11T22:45:00.000-06:002009-05-11T22:45:00.000-06:00Mr. Holzmann,
What saddens me is that two people w...Mr. Holzmann,<br />What saddens me is that two people who can add so much value to the lives of others would spend any time attacking each other. When and how to speak up I can't answer, unfortunately. I was especially bothered by the post "What happens to women in a patriarchal society?" which seems to imply that a father leading comes at the expense of a woman. You then relate that to a horrible act and the silencing of women. What you have identified has nothing to do with patriarchy and everything to do with the corruption of power. Unfortunately women are just as dangerous in positions of power as our Congress can show. Because my family is "patriarchal", by all of our agreement, my wife has more freedom not less. She can choose to be a mother instead of having a career. It is hard now to remember how strange and difficult that decision was at the time because of our "feminist" upbringing. Sorry for the rambling post!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05439286257814287349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6888282.post-15692729738257654572009-05-11T20:08:00.000-06:002009-05-11T20:08:00.000-06:00"When and how would you recommend I ... should sp..."When and how would you recommend I ... should speak up?"<br /><br />I think this is an excellent question, and it's one I've been pondering, as I'm greatly concerned by the exclusive positions that these homeschooling leaders are taking. How *should* this be addressed, not just by Sonlight but by others who are being marginalized by these positions? <br /><br />-a Christian home educator in ColoradoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6888282.post-36567457145046856412009-05-11T17:35:00.000-06:002009-05-11T17:35:00.000-06:00Steve:
I'm sorry my posts have made you sad.
I'm...Steve:<br /><br />I'm sorry my posts have made you sad.<br /><br />I'm wondering if you could help define better what, specifically, makes you sad about my posts.<br /><br />I believe I have said much the same as you: I have noted with pleasure the things I have found helpful in what he said. Am I not supposed to point out the places where I think he (and/or his <EM>paisanos</EM>) go[es] too far? Especially if and as he urges perspectives and policies and practices that marginalize and endanger other members of the homeschool community? And especially if and as I have found Sonlight Curriculum itself seems to be being marginalized by Phillips and friends?<br /><br />When and how would you recommend I (or someone else who is more closely associated with Sonlight--since I am no longer involved on a day to day basis) should speak up?<br /><br />Thanks for your input. I look forward to any additional insights you may provide.John Holzmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14849211055450293089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6888282.post-24582361606316926542009-05-11T17:28:00.000-06:002009-05-11T17:28:00.000-06:00Mr. Holzmann,
I've read with interest and disappoi...Mr. Holzmann,<br />I've read with interest and disappointment your recent posts covering Doug Phillips. I've heard him speak several times and was jarred into thinking by his words. Although I don't agree with everything he professes I have become a better leader and protector of my family because of the resources he makes available. The same goes with the resources you provide. I'm better because options exist. However, your recent posts don't seem like a healthy dialogue. It reminds me of the missionary squabbles in the William Carey book I'm currently reading with my children. That book made me sad and your posts make me sad.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05439286257814287349noreply@blogger.com